ELCC Computer Club

General Meeting Minutes

4 August, 2006

Quote of the day:

Computers make it easier to do a lot of things, but most of the things they make it easier to do don't need to be done. - Andy Rooney (www.brainyquote.com)

The meeting opened at 10:00 AM with 16 members in attendance.

Announcements:

Paul Davidson chaired the meeting, as John Barker was away.  He opened the meeting with a cute joke not unlike John Barker's (wink).

Peter Kennedy read an article from the Toronto Star about a bear climbing into a local fishing guide's boat.

Bob Young read through an article about problem's with Microsoft's Windows Genuine Advantage  (WGA) which concluded that, very shortly, unless WGA is installed, Windows will stop working in 30 days.  Microsoft hopes this will put an end to Windows piracy, we'll see...

He also read an article from a guy who tried installing Ubuntu Linux on an older notebook PC and did have some problems getting his wireless working.  Linux is a little more challenging than Windows in some areas, but is steadily improving, and no virus, worms or trojans so far... 

Some recommended free versions of Linux include: Freespire, Xandros, OpenSuse and Fedora Core; google for their respective home pages.  Most also come in a “live CD” version that you can try without installing on your PC.

Sturg brought in a bundle of Kubuntu Linux CDs for evaluation.  Kubuntu can be run as a “Live CD” that doesn't change your computer in any way, or Click the Install Button and follow the prompts to set up a “Dual Boot” system.  TIP:  Use an old PC that you have sitting in a closet, not your everyday Windows machine.  Experience malware-free computing!

Paul then opened the floor to questions:

Name
Q&A
Details
OS
M.I.G.S. Q Is it safe to use automatic updates default settings? 2000>
Bob A

It depends on whether you have a legitimate copy of Windows XP or 2000.  Only legal versions will pass the WGA authentication, then you have access to all updates and patches.  Illegal versions will only be able to download critical updates, but that will likely change soon (see above).

That said, legal Windows users can safely use automatic updates.  Go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Security Center and look at the bottom of the screen for Manage security settings for:

VirusGIF

 Click on Automatic Updates, as shown, and you will see this:

AutoUpdates

From top to bottom, think of the choices as: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced and Expert, shown.  Choose the option that works for you.  Click OK and your done.  TIP:  If you choose Automatic, set when to update  and time of day first, so you can see that it is working.

 

11:00 AM: Coffee Break

Re-convened at 11:15AM.

Paul told another cute joke and then:

Name
Q&A
Details
OS
M.I.G.S. Q What do we do if we think we just released a Trojan on our system? All
Bob A

Do not reboot, run all your security tests.  Then, use Start > Run, type “msconfig” without the quotes and hit Enter. Read and un-check any unrecognized programs.   Then, reboot and run all your security tests again.   If they come up clean, you should be OK.

If necessary, use msconfig again, to verify that the unrecognized program(s) have been removed from the list.  For more info, google for the questionable program's name.

 
M.I.G.S. Q How can we opt out of Windows Updates WGA? 2000>
Sturg A Use “NetChk Protect” to bypass Windows Updates and WGA completely, it is free to use for one year.  Google for the website.